Witness accounts of the Roswell UFO incident

The witness accounts of the Roswell UFO incident would transform Roswell from a forgotten incident to perhaps the most famous UFO case of all time.

In 1978, author Stanton T. Friedman interviewed Jesse Marcel, who voiced his suspicion that debris he recovered on a ranch near Roswell in 1947 was "not of this world." Marcel and others gave descriptions of debris which seemed to be describing a similar set of objects. More spectacularly, numerous accounts of aliens and alien craft emerged as UFO researchers sought out and interviewed more people in connection with the 1947 incident.

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Witness accounts of the debris described in 1947

Mac Brazel's interview

Mac Brazel, who discovered the debris which sparked the Roswell UFO incident, died in 1963, well before researchers started to interview witnesses to the incident. However, he was interviewed in 1947 and his accounts of debris appeared in the Roswell Daily Record on July 9, 1947. In the interview he said he found "bright wreckage made up of rubber strips, tinfoil, a rather tough paper and sticks".[1][2]

Jesse Marcel's testimony

Jesse Marcel was approached by researchers in 1978 and he recounted details suggesting the debris Brazel had led him to was exotic. He believed the true nature of the debris was being suppressed by the military. His accounts were featured in the 1979 documentary UFOs are Real, and in a February 1980 National Enquirer article, which are largely responsible for making the Roswell incident famous by sparking renewed interest.

There was all kinds of stuff—small beams about three eighths or a half inch square with some sort of hieroglyphics on them that nobody could decipher. These looked something like balsa wood, and were about the same weight, except that they were not wood at all. They were very hard, although flexible, and would not burn....One thing that impressed me about the debris was the fact that a lot of it looked like parchment. It had little numbers with symbols that we had to call hieroglyphics because I could not understand them. They could not be read, they were just like symbols, something that meant something, and they were not all the same, but the same general pattern, I would say. They were pink and purple. They looked like they were painted on. These little numbers could not be broken, could not be burned. I even took my cigarette lighter and tried to burn the material we found that resembled parchment and balsa, but it would not burn—wouldn't even smoke. But something that is even more astonishing is that the pieces of metal that we brought back were so thin, just like tinfoil in a pack of cigarettes. I didn't pay too much attention to that at first, until one of the boys came to me and said: "You know that metal that was in there? I tried to bend the stuff and it won't bend. I even tried it with a sledgehammer. You can't make a dent on it," Marcel said.[3]

The Brazel and Marcel family testimony

Bessie Brazel, Mac's daughter, had helped recover the debris. "There was what appeared to be pieces of heavily waxed paper and a sort of aluminum-like foil. Some of these pieces had something like numbers and lettering on them, but there were no words that we were able to make out. Some of the metal-foil like pieces had a sort of tape stuck to them, and when these were held to the light they showed what looked like pastel flowers or designs. Even though the stuff looked like tape it could not be peeled off or removed at all. It was very light in weight but there sure was a lot of it." [4]

She also signed an affidavit that had additional descriptions: "The debris looked like pieces of a large balloon which had burst. The pieces were small, the largest I remember measuring was about the same as the diameter of a basketball. Most of it was a kind of double-sided material, foil-like on one side and rubber-like on the other. Both sides were grayish silver in color, the foil more silvery than the rubber. Sticks, like kite sticks, were attached to some of the pieces with a whitish tape. The foil-rubber material could not be torn like ordinary aluminum foil can be torn." [5]

Son Bill Brazel Jr. confirmed some of what Bessie said: "There was some tinfoil and some wood and on some of the wood it had Japanese or Chinese figures."[6] "There was some wooden-like particles I picked up. These were like balsa wood in weight, but a bit darker in color and much harder. This stuff ... weighed nothing, yet you couldn't scratch it with your fingernail like ordinary balsa, and you couldn't break it either."

Marcel’s son Jesse Jr. also saw the debris. Marcel went home and showed the debris to his family. Marcel Jr.: "[It was] foil-like stuff, very thin, metallic-like but not metal, and very tough. There was also some structural-like material too — beams and so on. Also a quantity of black plastic material which looked organic in nature ... Imprinted along the edge of some of the beam remnants there were hieroglyphic-type characters. I recently questioned my father about this, and he recalled seeing these characters also and even described them as being a pink or purplish-pink color. Egyptian hieroglyphics would be a close visual description of the characters seen, except I don't think there were any animal figures present as there are in true Egyptian hieroglyphics..." [7]

He would say elsewhere in a signed affidavit: "There were three categories of debris; a thick, foil like metallic gray substance; a brittle, brownish-black plastic-like material, like Bakelite; and there were fragments of what appeared to be I-beams ... On the inner surface of the I-beam, there appeared to be a type of writing. This writing was a purple-violet hue, and it had an embossed appearance. The figures were composed of curved, geometric shapes. It had no resemblance to Russian, Japanese or any other foreign language. It resembled hieroglyphics, but it had no animal-like characters." [8]

Sheridan Cavitt and Lewis Rickett’s testimony

Sheridan Cavitt of the Roswell Counter Intelligence Corps (CIC) was identified by Marcel as assisting him in investigating the crash and recovering debris, likely the "man in plainclothes" mentioned by rancher Brazel in a contemporary article as accompanying Marcel and himself. (CIC agents usually wore civilian clothes.)

He was interviewed in 1994 when the Air Force investigated the allegations of a cover-up. In the interview, he said he had no memory of ever meeting Brazel or going out with Marcel, but said he went to the crash site with his CIC assistant Sgt. Lewis Rickett.

Cavitt said the crash site was tiny, about the size of his living room or "20 feet square." "It was a small amount of, as I recall, bamboo sticks, reflective sort of material that would, at first glance, you would probably think it was aluminum foil, something of that type and we gathered up some of it. I don't know whether we even tried to get all of it. It wasn’t scattered; well, what I call, you know, extensively." [9]

Rickett said Cavitt took him to a debris area the following day. He described an extensive cleanup of a large area involving many men, heavily guarded by MPs. He was allowed to handle a remaining piece of debris. "There was a slightly curved piece of metal, real light." "You could bend it but couldn't crease it." "It was about six inches by twelve or fourteen inches. Very light. I crouched down and tried to snap it. My boss [Cavitt] laughs and said, 'Smart guy. He's trying to do what we couldn't do.' I asked, 'what in the hell is this stuff made out of?' It didn't feel like plastic and I never saw a piece of metal this thin that you couldn't break. This was the strangest material we had ever seen ... there was talk about it not being from Earth."

Roswell and Fort Worth base witnesses

Two witnesses were brought into Ramey's office and told the debris they saw came from Roswell.

Material with exotic properties

There were numerous others who claimed to have seen the debris, and many of them described various types of material having exotic physical qualities. One was a tinfoil-like material which when crumpled up would regain its original shape.

Others had similar accounts.

Another unusual aspect to some of the material was its strength.

Some also described pencil-like sticks with unusual qualities:

Debris field descriptions

Reports of the size of the debris field and of the ranch's ground conditions differ. There is a large range of descriptions of the size of the debris field, from Cavitt claiming the field was about the size of the 20-foot (6.1 m) room he was sitting in[17] to one account Brazel gave in 1947 of "about 200 yards diameter,"[18] to Marcel Sr.'s description: "The wreckage was scattered over an area of about three quarters of a mile long and several hundred feet wide," [19] or "It was maybe a mile long and several hundred feet wide of debris." [20] to yet another description from 1947 attributed to Marcel saying "he found the broken remains of the weather device scattered over a square mile of land."

Bill Brazel Jr. gave an independent description very similar to Marcel's, based on what he said his father later told him, of the debris field being "about a quarter mile long or so, and several hundred feet wide."

An indirect description of debris field size came from combined statements of Bill Brazel and neighboring rancher Bud Payne. The distance between the northernmost portion of the debris field pointed out by Brazel (where he said there was a gouge) and the southernmost portion pointed out by Payne (where he said he was turned away by soldiers) was about three quarters of a mile.

Brazel's daughter, Bessie Brazel Schreiber said, "There was a lot of debris scattered sparsely over an area that seems to me now to have been about the size of a football field. There may have been additional material spread out more widely by the wind, which was blowing quite strongly." Like Tyree, she mentioned her father mentioning a lot of debris being near a water tank and his concern that the sheep wouldn't water there.[21]

Descriptions of the condition of the field ranged from no disturbance at all to descriptions of deep gouges in the terrain. Marcel Sr. said, "It was nothing that hit the ground or exploded [on] the ground. It's something that must have exploded above ground." Bessie Brazel said she didn't "remember seeing gouges in the ground or any other signs that anything may have hit the ground hard." [22]

However, Brazel Jr. said he saw a shallow groove, about 10 feet (3.0 m) wide, 500 feet (150 m) long, and only a foot to 18 inches (460 mm) deep, extending down to the hard shale layer underneath. "This thing made quite a track down through there. It took a year or two for it to grass back over and heal up." [23]

Other witnesses to describe a gouge or gouges on the ground were Walt Whitmore Jr. (175 to 200 yards of uprooted pastureland in a fan shape), Roswell counterintelligence officer Lewis Rickett, photographer Robin Adair of the Associated Press, who said he tried to overfly the recovery operation but was waved off by soldiers brandishing weapons, and Gen. Arthur Exon, who said he overflew the area some months later. Exon said that in addition to various gouges, he saw auto tracks leading into the "pivotal areas."

Witness accounts of aliens, intimidation and cover-ups

First-hand accounts of aliens

Starting in the early 1990s, several individuals gave first-hand accounts of seeing aliens.

Other accounts of aliens and alien spacecraft recoveries

Numerous other people say they heard reports of recovered aliens and/or an alien craft from others. In some cases, several people heard similar alien stories from the same person. Numerous others claimed to have seen, handled or been told about crash material with strange physical properties.[29]

Accounts of intimidation

Several people claimed, or knew people who claimed, that they were threatened by military or government personnel into keeping silent about what they saw or knew. In some cases, these threats including death threats.

Accounts of cover-ups

"The stuff in that one photo was pieces of the actual stuff we had found. It was not a staged photo. Later, they cleared out our wreckage and substituted some of their own. They then allowed more photos. Those photos were taken while the actual wreckage was on its way to Wright Field." [82]
"[referring to photo of Ramey with weather balloon] "That's a fake. ...What you see there is nothing but a piece of brown paper that I put over [the real debris] so that the news media couldn't get a picture of what I had. [I covered the real stuff, including in the photo of me you are showing. Ramey told me] 'Just don't say anything. Don't show anything.' ...[Ramey] claimed that it was fragments of a weather balloon. ...I knew it wasn't a weather balloon, and Ramey knew it wasn't a weather balloon. They had the picture made strictly for the press..." [83]
"To get them [the press] off my back, I told them we were recovering a downed weather balloon. I was told later that a military team from my base was sent to rake the entire area." [84]
"[Gen.] McMullen said, Look, why don't you come up with something, anything you can use to get the press off our back? So we came up with this weather balloon story. Somebody got one and we ran it up a couple of hundred feet and dropped it to make it look like it crashed, and that's what we used." [85]
"Actually, it was a cover story, the balloon part of it... Somebody cooked up the idea as a cover story ...we'll use this weather balloon. ...We were told this is the story that is to be given to the press, and that is it, and anything else, forget it. …McMullen told me, ‘You are not to discuss this… this is more than top secret… it’s beyond that. It’s within my priority as deputy to George Kenney, and he in turn responsible to the President, this is the highest priority you can exhibit. And you will say nothing.’”[86]

Notes

  1. ^ The Brazel Interview
  2. ^ Saler, Benson; Zeigler, Charles A.; Moore, Charles B. (1997), UFO Crash at Roswell: The Genesis of a Modern Myth, Smithsonian Institution Press, pp. 6, ISBN 1-56098-751-0 
  3. ^ Berlitz and Moore., pp.72-74, cited at http://members.aol.com/TPrinty/debris.html
  4. ^ Berlitz and Moore, p.96
  5. ^ Pflock (1995), p.169
  6. ^ Randle and Schmitt (1991), p.52
  7. ^ Berlitz and Moore, pp.78-80
  8. ^ Pflock (1995), p.162
  9. ^ USAF Roswell Report, Attachments 17 & 18
  10. ^ Pflock (1995), p. 165; copy of Robert Porter affidavit at http://www.roswellproof.com/Porter.html
  11. ^ Shirkey, pp. 72–73
  12. ^ Affidavit at http://www.roswellproof.com/smith.html
  13. ^ Randle, Kevin and Donald Schmitt. UFO Crash at Roswell., p. 72, New York: Avon, 1991
  14. ^ Berlitz & Moore, "The Roswell Incident," 1980, p. 36
  15. ^ USAF Roswell Report, Attachment 30; from affidavit at http://www.roswellproof.com/Newton.html
  16. ^ Newton photo published in 1967 Look magazine UFO article at http://www.roswellproof.com/LOOK_1967.html
  17. ^ HQ USAF Attachment 18
  18. ^ Roswell Daily Record, July 9, 1947
  19. ^ Berlitz and Moore, p. 69
  20. ^ 1981 Linda Corley interview quoted at
  21. ^ Affidavit at http://www.roswellproof.com/Schreiber.html
  22. ^ Roswell debris field size and quantity of debris
  23. ^ Randle & Schmitt (1991), p.50, 130; Randle (2000) p. 65
  24. ^ From Benthal's 1993 notarized statement, reported by Carey and Schmitt, 130-132; Friedman and Berliner, 103-105; also Benthal's videotaped interview in UFO Secret: the Roswell Crash, 2000, UFO Central Home Video, Inc., Venice, CA: 2001.
  25. ^ Randle & Schmitt (1994) p. 13; Randle (1995), pp. 38–39.
  26. ^ Haut affidavit at http://www.roswellproof.com/haut.html
  27. ^ Carey and Schmitt (2007), 217-219; http://www.nicap.org/haut-trib.htm; http://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2005/12/walter-haut-dead-at-83.html
  28. ^ Carey & Schmitt, 136-139; also video interview, Sci Fi Investigates—Roswell’’’, first aired November 8, 2006 Benjamin 33 minutes into video
  29. ^ Compendium of Roswell debris witnesses
  30. ^ Friedman & Berliner, pp. 87–88; http://members.aol.com/TPrinty/Rosmyths.html
  31. ^ Randle (1995), pp. 29–38;
  32. ^ Randle (1995), pp. 142–149, transcript of interview, June 18, 1990
  33. ^ Robert Hastings, UFOs and Nukes: Extraordinary Encounters at Nuclear Weapons Sites, 2008, pp. 52–55, 510–512, ISBN 978-1-4343-9831-4; Kevin Randle blog
  34. ^ Madson interview report by Anthony Bragalia; second site
  35. ^ June Crain interview and documents of Wright-Patterson employment
  36. ^ Randle & Schmitt (1994), p. 142, 212.
  37. ^ Randle and Schmitt (1994), p. 174; cited at http://members.aol.com/TPrinty/milmen.html
  38. ^ Kevin Randle, “The Roswell Encyclopedia,” 2000, pp. 102–104.
  39. ^ Randle (1997), p. 29.
  40. ^ Sleppy affidavit at http://www.roswellproof.com/sleppy.html
  41. ^ Randle & Schmitt (1994), p. 173; http://members.aol.com/TPrinty/crash.html
  42. ^ Randle & Schmitt (1991), p. 49, 185
  43. ^ Friedman & Berliner, "Crash at Corona," 1992, 76-77
  44. ^ Pflock (2001), 122. Pflock explains that Joyce said nothing about any bodies during the recorded interview, and only mentioned the Brazel "little green men" conversation to Moore as he was leaving. Moore wrote this up in his notes afterward, but erroneously attributed the conversation to Whitmore on his deathbed.
  45. ^ Pflock (2001), pp. 122–123
  46. ^ Carey & Schmitt, pp. 46–47, 53
  47. ^ Carey & Schmitt, 129
  48. ^ Carey & Schmitt, 130
  49. ^ Dennis
  50. ^ Carey & Schmitt, 199
  51. ^ Carey & Schmitt, 100-101
  52. ^ Carey & Schmitt, 99-100; 101-107
  53. ^ Pflock, 46
  54. ^ Bragalia report on fireman interview;second site
  55. ^ Dugger affidavit at http://www.roswellproof.com/Dugger.html
  56. ^ Carey & Schmitt, 119-122
  57. ^ Dennis affidavit and drawing at http://www.roswellproof.com/dennis.html; http://members.aol.com/TPrinty/Dennis.html
  58. ^ San Diego Union-Tribune, Oct. 26, 2007, North County Times, Sept. 30, 2007
  59. ^ Randle & Schmitt (1994), 22-24; Carey & Schmitt, 86-90
  60. ^ Tim Shawcross, The Roswell File, 1997, 41-45
  61. ^ Carey & Schmitt, 198
  62. ^ Henderson
  63. ^ Shirkey affidavit at http://www.roswellproof.com/Shirkey.html
  64. ^ Carey & Schmitt, 203
  65. ^ Carey & Schmitt, 148-165
  66. ^ Carey & Schmitt, 203-207; UFO Magazine
  67. ^ Lovekin’s testimony at http://www.roswellproof.com/Lovekin.html
  68. ^ Dennis affidavit at http://www.roswellproof.com/Dennis.html; http://members.aol.com/TPrinty/Dennis.html
  69. ^ affidavit in Randle (1995), p. 182 ; Randle & Schmitt (1994) p.89, , cited at http://members.aol.com/TPrinty/RagRowe.html
  70. ^ Cahill affidavit in Randle (1995), p. 175
  71. ^ Dugger affidavit at http://www.roswellproof.com/Dugger.html; http://www.qsl.net/w5www/roswell.html
  72. ^ Letter to Robert Shirkey, in Shirkey, p. 96.
  73. ^ Tulk affidavit in Pflock (2001), p. 287
  74. ^ Roberts’ affidavit at http://roswellproof.homestead.com/Roberts.html
  75. ^ Berlitz & Moore (1980), p. 98
  76. ^ Randle & Schmitt (1994), pp. 65–66; Pflock (2001) pp. 245–248
  77. ^ Pflock (2001), p. 97
  78. ^ A Different Perspective: Edwin Easley and Roswell
  79. ^ ibid, pp. 69–70.
  80. ^ Sleppy affidavit at http://www.roswellproof.com/sleppy.html; http://members.aol.com/TPrinty/crash.html
  81. ^ Carey & Schmitt, pp. 215–217
  82. ^ Berlitz & Moore, p. 75
  83. ^ From transcript of Linda Corley interview with Marcel, May 5, 1981
  84. ^ 1979 interviews by Leonard Stringfield
  85. ^ Reporter Billy Cox interview, Florida Today, 11/24/91, requoted in "Beyond Top Secret" by Timothy Good, p. 465
  86. ^ Randle and Schmitt (1991), p. 166; recorded interview, portions of recorded quotes at http://www.roswellproof.com/dubose.html#anchor_14
  87. ^ Randle & Schmitt (1991 & 1994), (Based on phone and personal interviews from July 1989 - July 1990), cited at http://www.roswellproof.com/exon.html
  88. ^ The People, London, October 10, 1998, cited at http://www.ufologie.net/rw/w/edgarmitchell.htm and http://web.archive.org/web/20091026201323/http://geocities.com/Area51/Shadowlands/6583/coverup038.html
  89. ^ St. Petersburg Times article, Feb. 18, 2004, cited at http://www.sptimes.com/2004/02/18/Neighborhoodtimes/Astronaut__We_ve_had_.shtml

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ISBN 1601630662

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